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nobby-noboddy
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Let's keep this civil and research based if possible.

If you are new to the subject I would suggest reading this book as it gives a good description of the individual subjects to cover in alphabetical order. So you can read the whole thing or jump to a subject.

https://archive.org/details/ZeteticCosmogony/page/n9/mode/2up

That's the more mature research, of course nowadays we have NASA, satellites, moon landings, aliens and all the mysterious stuff to deal with.

My view? Earth if flat, stationary and encapsulated, only two of those I can verify for myself.

There seems to be an ice barrier round the outside and a big mystery at the north pole. Both are inaccessible to the common person. As to how this wonderful self-sustaining system is encapsulated (dome, infinite plane, cosmic egg), all is pure speculation.

I would suggest that topic's be kept Tight for example 'Curvature'.

 

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Posted : 16/07/2020 10:05 am
alexis
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I'm an ardent believer in FE and I always will be, once you get the big pic there's no looking back.

How can we be living on a planet that's spinning at so many miles per hour and just hurtling through space at God knows what speed. It's just ridiculous to say the least.

Also, how come water sticks to this spinning ball, water always finds it's own level, Loads tell me it's b/c of gravity but gravity is only a theory that came from Newton's head.

I am so glad you started this thread Nobody, I was going to but I weren't sure if GO would approve ??

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Posted : 19/07/2020 9:03 am
strong-valiant
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OK... this will be the first time ever I take part in a flat earth discussion... Honestly, as of now, I do not believe it - I'm open for it.

I have zero insight into it...

 

(@nobby-noboddy

(@alexis)

 

one question that immediately comes to my mind is = does this rule out planet X ? Nibiru ?

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Posted : 19/07/2020 11:07 am
strong-valiant
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I'm pondering also about the sun ... how does it relate to this ? 

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Posted : 19/07/2020 11:15 am
nobby-noboddy
(@nobby-noboddy)
Eminent Member

@strong-valiant

I really would recommend reading the book mentioned at the start of the thread. I'm sure the sun is covered somewhat.

Yeah, I used to like the idea of Nibiru but it's all bollocks.

I'll try and find some quality videos to post, but there's nothing like reading a book!

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Posted : 19/07/2020 5:36 pm
strong-valiant
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I'll maybe read the book later, thanks for recommending. I have many things going on, and I dislike reading from a screen and I can't print either.

 

So after a quick look on wikipedia it reads something like there's planets, stars and the sun are above earth... so there are globes but ours is not?

 

Rowbotham's method, which he called zetetic astronomy, models the Earth as an enclosed plane[clarification needed] centered at the North Pole and bounded along its perimeter by a wall of ice, with the SunMoon, planets, and stars moving only several thousand miles above the surface of Earth.

 

I don't understand what the agenda is ? can you elaborate on this ?

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Posted : 21/07/2020 11:28 am
nobby-noboddy
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@strong-valiant

 

erm....  Why on earth would you believe anything on wacky-pedia. It's a disinformation tool. Ask Phillip Cross.

 

The agenda is to keep us from the truth of a flat stationary earth, from which one can only logically conclude that it is an enclosed self-sustaining system that was created for US.

Everything, all the lies and deceits fall from your eyes when you see it.

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Posted : 21/07/2020 3:52 pm
strong-valiant
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I don't necessarily believe what is on wikipedia... but I had to start somewhere in order to get some understanding of the concept.

Thanks for the reply. Is there a solution of any sort that we should strive for? If we all understand that it is flat... I'm still having a hard time understanding what is the point... I mean how does our daily lives change because of this? 

I personally have not yet found my compelling evidence for this flat earth concept... but I am still open for it... For me it feels like it doesn't matter if it is flat or not we still need to behave in a way that does not support the deception, which - to my understanding is by orchestrated by the Anunnaki. What is your view on this?

 

here's a snippet of the fifth Neruda interview that I find fitting at the moment:

Dr. Neruda: “Everyone wants to know the absolute truth. They want someone to point to
this phrase or that precept or that doctrine and explain to them that that is truth, believe it.
That’s been the game on this planet ever since humans began to contemplate their universe
in a philosophical manner. All the shared truth has gotten us where? Where we kill children
to punish leaders? Where leaders lock people up in death camps? Where religious leaders
abuse children? So I would ask you, what is the value of the information that has collectively
brought humanity here?

“You want the signposts of truth. No one can do that, and your proof… is that no one has.”

The continuation after the above quote is very profound, but I shan't quote it here because it is longer, and I think that I don't need it to go off topic here... not that the above quote has to do with flat earth, it just has to do with how I am contemplating. I'm trying to piece the puzzle my way.

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Posted : 22/07/2020 2:35 pm
nobby-noboddy
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@strong-valiant

yeah the real problem is the present situaation and the urgency, hence i'm not going to get all metaphysical. I went all over nibiru, sitchen, n-th planet, the lot etc etc.

I'm trying  to get this book to anyone who can give it to a receptive normie -

 

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Posted : 22/07/2020 9:12 pm
strong-valiant
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OK. I actually bumped upon that A-seed book that you mention now, at the Icke forum a couple of weeks ago, I did download it and read a bit, it seemed well written.

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Posted : 23/07/2020 2:21 pm
strong-valiant
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Update regarding the Flat Earth vs Globe Earth. 

 

As Albert Einstein said: " If you can explain it - then you know it "

 

I have now after some research of my own landed to the conclusion due to compelling evidence (for me personally) that the Flat Earth concept is disinformation. My hypothesis is that it is a psyop to establish confusion in the "conspiracy theories", to diminish the urgency of the essentials by mixing it together with them.

For example I stumbled upon comments against David Icke in a video that said:

can't answer a simple question. total controlled opposition of the fact that he beats around the bush and takes us into a virtual reality game. lmfao just look at the lion picture on the wall, of course he is pushing the Globe propaganda. Same with 5G, he will give us some truth but then lie and say that there will be satellites in space beaming down 5G. Gatekeeper he is.

and this one

The fact that David Icke wriggles out of actually saying: 'It is easily provable that the earth is flat, and the public have been brainwashed and mind-controlled into thinking otherwise,' proves that he is controlled opposition, in my eyes. He seems to have done a lot of good in the info he puts out, but he did used to work for the BBC. I'm certain he is a Freemason.

That pretty much sealed the deal. I do not agree.

I must admit that I have not cared anything about the Flat Earth previously, but as I decided to look into it I approached it with an open mind. One argument seemed to be that water can't curve = Flat Earth. Or more specifically: water doesn't curve - it finds its own level

 

However this is evidence for the fact that it can

 

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Posted : 03/08/2020 8:36 am
nobby-noboddy
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So you think surface tension accounts for curved water all round a spinning globe do you?

Ah, the simple minded, how sweet, how feeble.

Show me a picture where that water is stuck on a ball please.

Oh no, of course, you can't because it is not possible. If it was then you should be able to reproduce it.

What happens when you break the surface tension? splash!!

We'd better hope no-one sticks a big pin in the sea hadn't we.

It's not a psy-op, that would be rediculous and pointless given the other distractions going on.

I don't seek to convince. Only to allow for and invite open, honest investigation.

Putting people off looking into it for themselves is the psy-op. I know so many people, skeptics, who when they finally did the thinking and research for themselves could not reach any other conclusion.

You don't care what I think, I don't care what you think but we shouldn't seek to impose our ideas arbitrarily on others.

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Posted : 04/08/2020 9:59 am
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